Overall, the automotive market has been down for the past couple years for HCA, the compounder's largest market, followed by wire and cable.
In total, HCA turns out about 1.3 billion pounds of polymer compounds per year.
Moore said many large customers in automotive continue to mix in-house, using captive reversion.
"We continue to see a trend of insourcing," Moore said. "Some larger opportunities exist with companies evaluating if they can continue to invest in mixing, or switch to captive conversion. There are several active projects in this category for 2025."
While the move toward EVs remains uncertain domestically, the transition continues in Europe.
For HCA, the needle does not move much in response to EV market fluctuation, Moore said.
"To be honest, the transition from ICE to BE or hybrid has little influence on the compounds HCA provides its customers," Moore said. "Each vehicle requires sealing, antivibration and some kind of fluid management. We need to be assigned to the right platforms and customers that continue to outpace the general market.
"Our ability to provide high performance and Hexpol proprietary solutions with technical support is our value-proposition."
There may be other opportunities for HCA in light of EVs' heavier weight.
"You have to compound around extra dynamic forces," Moore said. "The compound criteria and the performance needs to increase on the NVH side. In addition, because of the lack of engine noise, the (need for) sealing your compartment or doorsill also increases.
"We are seeing much more demanding requirements for wind noise."
On the fluid side, EVs do not have a core radiator hose, though other heat-related hose applications have increased.
"A battery is not efficient in a cold state or a hot state," he said. "It requires constant changing of temperature and fluid management to optimize its performance. At the start you need to heat it up and in operation you need to cool it down.
"For North America, hybrid technology is the likely path forward. For us, it is about making sure we have infiltration into the right platforms and the right products that have a future life.
"And fluid management is key for those vehicles."
The irony of sustainability continues as well: the creation or introduction of an undesirable material into the process of producing another sustainable product.
In the Nordic region, where EVs have been adopted wholesale, CO2 levels have decreased dramatically and rubber fume—from tire wear—has become a new issue.
"The thing is, you're still using materials you would not classify as sustainable, like polyurethanes, which are not synonymous with sustainability," Moore said.
"Those are challenging chemicals going into EV tires to make them quieter, materials that are challenging to work with and challenging to handle. It's almost counterintuitive. We need to provide solutions, but it sometimes means using materials that are not sustainable to reach those solutions. But it's the reality."